Comments on: Rocktown Grill and the 45 percent rule http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule Harrisonburg's Community News Network Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:10:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: hburgnews.com » The Pub under pressure (again) http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-73895 hburgnews.com » The Pub under pressure (again) Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:28:01 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-73895 [...] 45 percent rule is something I’ve written about here before, as it affects virtually every local establishment that sells alcohol. Attempts to [...] [...] 45 percent rule is something I’ve written about here before, as it affects virtually every local establishment that sells alcohol. Attempts to [...]

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]]> By: David Miller http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11986 David Miller Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:38:02 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11986 This is why I stay downtown. I'm sure those other venues in suburbian Harrisonburg are great, but downtown is really where it's at! This is why I stay downtown. I’m sure those other venues in suburbian Harrisonburg are great, but downtown is really where it’s at!

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]]> By: David Troyer http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11985 David Troyer Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:29:31 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11985 Mark... where does the Police Department make statements about their feeling of how "big" the fight was? If I was Rocktown, I would call the police right away in hopes to keep at least some sense of responsibility with the HPD... Anyhow, I feel <a href="http://www.artfuldodger.org" rel="nofollow">The Artful Dodger</a> does a great job of good food by day, good times by night. The only times my food has been lackluster were some times late at night, otherwise very good stuff... and they have a buy one get one free coupon on golookon... Mark… where does the Police Department make statements about their feeling of how “big” the fight was? If I was Rocktown, I would call the police right away in hopes to keep at least some sense of responsibility with the HPD…

Anyhow, I feel The Artful Dodger does a great job of good food by day, good times by night. The only times my food has been lackluster were some times late at night, otherwise very good stuff… and they have a buy one get one free coupon on golookon…

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]]> By: Mark Batten http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11900 Mark Batten Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:02:34 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11900 Congratulations Rocktown on your first stabbing! Hope nobody gets killed at the upcoming Big Brothers Big Sisters benefit. P.S. The police feel it wasn't a big fight because nobody who works there called them? Of course nobody called them. Why would they report a wasted customer involved in a parking lot brawl? Congratulations Rocktown on your first stabbing!
Hope nobody gets killed at the upcoming Big Brothers Big Sisters benefit.
P.S. The police feel it wasn’t a big fight because nobody who works there called them? Of course nobody called them. Why would they report a wasted customer involved in a parking lot brawl?

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]]> By: Frank J Witt http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11644 Frank J Witt Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:32:56 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11644 $90 ! Holy crap ! I thought it might just be 25 or 30 dollar fine. I walked home last summer from Highlawn and did get stopped 4 times crossing JMU but never got a ticket. Just was asked all 4 times where I was going and when I go to the gate on Port, they left me alone. Thanks for the info. $90 ! Holy crap !

I thought it might just be 25 or 30 dollar fine. I walked home last summer from Highlawn and did get stopped 4 times crossing JMU but never got a ticket. Just was asked all 4 times where I was going and when I go to the gate on Port, they left me alone.

Thanks for the info.

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]]> By: Tim http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11641 Tim Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:54:16 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11641 John, your disbelief stems from the absurdness of Hpd's actions while dealing with people who have been drinking then walk home. I have a friend who is a school teacher (not a college kid) who got stopped 2 blocks from his house while walking home and arrested for dip. He wasn't stumbling or yelling, he just cut a corner through a parking lot instead of following the sidewalk all the way around. Although hpd is supposed to have a reason for stopping you, my friends example shows how they will always find one if they want one. Once a person is stopped they ask if you've been drinking and a yes answer is a slippery slope to jail. If you've had a drink and respond truthfully the cop can now give you a breathalyser, and what I've been told is that it is illegal to be in public with any amount of alcohol in your system. If you refuse the breathalyser it is automatically assumed that you're guilty and you end up in jail. I don't believe that any officer is unreasonable enough to send a citizen to jail for DIP if they blow under .08 but, as it's been pointed out, most people are more than fine to walk with a BAC above .08 and there is no limit on how drunk a VA resident is allowed to be in private. So a citizen who has been drinking is only breaking the law while changing destinations. Though there are many ways of changing destinations walking is the safest option for most people going a short distance and DIP laws don't encourage people to take this option. What the laws do accomplish is generating 90 bucks a pop for the city and allowing the police to feel useful on an other wise quiet night. (Anybody from a big city is shocked by this law and will immediately tell you that their police have more important things to do.) John, your disbelief stems from the absurdness of Hpd’s actions while dealing with people who have been drinking then walk home. I have a friend who is a school teacher (not a college kid) who got stopped 2 blocks from his house while walking home and arrested for dip. He wasn’t stumbling or yelling, he just cut a corner through a parking lot instead of following the sidewalk all the way around. Although hpd is supposed to have a reason for stopping you, my friends example shows how they will always find one if they want one. Once a person is stopped they ask if you’ve been drinking and a yes answer is a slippery slope to jail. If you’ve had a drink and respond truthfully the cop can now give you a breathalyser, and what I’ve been told is that it is illegal to be in public with any amount of alcohol in your system. If you refuse the breathalyser it is automatically assumed that you’re guilty and you end up in jail. I don’t believe that any officer is unreasonable enough to send a citizen to jail for DIP if they blow under .08 but, as it’s been pointed out, most people are more than fine to walk with a BAC above .08 and there is no limit on how drunk a VA resident is allowed to be in private. So a citizen who has been drinking is only breaking the law while changing destinations. Though there are many ways of changing destinations walking is the safest option for most people going a short distance and DIP laws don’t encourage people to take this option. What the laws do accomplish is generating 90 bucks a pop for the city and allowing the police to feel useful on an other wise quiet night. (Anybody from a big city is shocked by this law and will immediately tell you that their police have more important things to do.)

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]]> By: David Miller http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11557 David Miller Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:10:09 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11557 Marty That kind of thing doesn't happen anymore. It is officially illegal to be intoxicated (above one beers worth) anywhere but in a dark quiet room at home, alone. Marty

That kind of thing doesn’t happen anymore. It is officially illegal to be intoxicated (above one beers worth) anywhere but in a dark quiet room at home, alone.

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]]> By: Marty http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11548 Marty Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:13:10 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11548 I was walking home drunk from Sunchase to Greek Row back in college and a cop stopped and gave me a ride. Lucky me. Yeah, $5 food cover? Whatever, you do what you gotta do. I was walking home drunk from Sunchase to Greek Row back in college and a cop stopped and gave me a ride. Lucky me.

Yeah, $5 food cover? Whatever, you do what you gotta do.

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]]> By: Marcus http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-11546 Marcus Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:06:50 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/2007/09/10/rocktown-grill-and-the-45-percent-rule/#comment-11546 I only visited a few times as a student, but I think Highlawn always charged a $5 cover charge? If you can exchange your cover for food I'd say retarded or not that's a win, not a loss for customers. I think as far as cops pestering walkers I believe location is key. I was approached by cops while a JMU student when walking home late at night from school/work. Then I lived toward the primarily student apartments (commons, ashby, etc). I was stone sober and definitely not stumbling. They seemed to just be fishing to see what I was up to walking home later at night. I have heard that from other students that live in those homes when they walk alone. It is probably completely random, but I know that it does happen.I was not bothered nor seen or heard of anyone bothered when I lives on S. Main or since I've been living closer to downtown. I'm curious what the statistics on people getting hit while walking home in the evening / at night are for the area over the last 10 years? See if there is an argument for dangers of walking home drunk from bars... I only visited a few times as a student, but I think Highlawn always charged a $5 cover charge? If you can exchange your cover for food I’d say retarded or not that’s a win, not a loss for customers.

I think as far as cops pestering walkers I believe location is key. I was approached by cops while a JMU student when walking home late at night from school/work. Then I lived toward the primarily student apartments (commons, ashby, etc). I was stone sober and definitely not stumbling. They seemed to just be fishing to see what I was up to walking home later at night. I have heard that from other students that live in those homes when they walk alone. It is probably completely random, but I know that it does happen.I was not bothered nor seen or heard of anyone bothered when I lives on S. Main or since I’ve been
living closer to downtown.

I’m curious what the statistics on people getting hit while walking home in the evening / at night are for the area over the last 10 years? See if there is an argument for dangers of walking home drunk from bars…

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