minor setback

Brent Finnegan -- March 5th, 2008

The DNR reports that Dave Briggman’s petition to remove Treasurer Becky Neal from office has to be re-signed by everyone who has already signed it, because it “did not inform those signing it that providing false information could result in perjury charges.”

19 Responses to “minor setback”

  1. Mike says:

    Just curious, if the information is false, how would the perpetrators ever be caught? I bet the police have better things to do than trying to track down Donald Duck at 1 Magic Kingdom Lane.

  2. Dave Briggman says:

    Hey “Mike”, that’s a pretty stupid comment.

    Actually, since the petition only references statements made in the sworn affidavits of TWO HPD officers, the likelihood of perjury ain’t that great.

  3. Mike says:

    Hey “Dave”, my whole point was that the likelyhood of perjury ain’t that great, especially if someone signs with false name/address.

    It was supposed to be a dumb joke. Take a deep breath.

  4. Frank J Witt says:

    Dave, you said “The first petition was thrown out because the document did not inform those signing it that providing false information could result in perjury charges, Briggman said.

    The person signing it…not the police. Why are you calling his comment stupid?

  5. Barnabas says:

    Donald Duck doesn’t live within the city so his name wouldn’t count anyway. Now if Donald Duck signed and claimed to live on Old South High, then we would have a case of pergury.

  6. Andy says:

    I believe Donald Duck lives in the county. And as of today he is worried about the very real possiblity that his swimming habits in local waters may trigger his sex to change.

    What a terrifc news day here in the ‘burg.

  7. Bubby says:

    Why is a Dave Briggman, a county resident (Keezletown) involving himself in the affairs of the City of Harrisonburg, and the purview of the City Council and City Manager? Is it the contention that the City isn’t doing it’s job? And if so, why does a county resident find himself in this thing? Is there a shortage of interested citizens in the City?

  8. jesse says:

    well at least dave has shown a willingness to participate in our republic. much unlike many who do nothing and expect everything.

  9. Dave Briggman says:

    Because, Bubby, aside from our family’s mortgage, most of our family’s money is spent within the confines of Harrisonburg. Should County resident cease spending money within Harrisonburg, the City would likely dry up and blow away.

    There is no “purview” of either the City Council or City Manager. Kurt Hodgen and Charlie Chenault each said as much — and more on the radio, including the fact that Becky Neal still has no supervision within the Treasurer’s Office and she, ultimately, still has the final say as to practices and procedures within that Office.

    Hell, just twice this week, I’ve seen her at Suntrust downtown…both Kurt and Charlie were surprised to hear she was unaccompanied by HPD.

    There’s no shortage of interest citizens within Harrisonburg in signing the petitions…only a few bluehairs and a very few other citizens are bothered by the fact a county resident — who knows enough about the statutes involving the creation of such petitions — is actually circulating it.

  10. Dave Briggman says:

    Thanks, Jesse.

  11. Lao Tzu says:

    Mr. Briggman, your response to my posts in yesterday’s DNR Online is precisely why I choose to not revel my name.

    I am not hiding from anything. It is that I wish to focus on issue and ideas rather than personalities (or rather lack thereof).

    Who I am is not nearly as important as what I am trying to say: act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with our God — perhaps I should have chosen “Micah.6.8.in.the.valley” as my pseudonym.

    Let us not confuse private thoughts with public discourse.

    Why you chose to post an annoying and irrelevant inquiry into my identity escapes me; yet reinforces my decision to write under a nom-de-guerre.

  12. finnegan says:

    If this is something personal between Lao and Dave, you two need to email each other. If it does not concern (or is not of interest to) the rest of us, please do not post it here.

    Use email or IM.

  13. Bubby says:

    Dave, I assume that the Council and the Town Manager have reviewed the charges against the Treasurer, discussed them with the city attorney (and possibly with the Virginia AG’s office), and determined that they don’t warrant suspension or immediate removal of the Treasurer. In other words, there are two sides to this story, and both are compelling and worthy of due process.

  14. JGFitzgerald says:


    Council can’t suspend the treasurer. Question Briggman’s motives if you will, or question whether he should have gotten his petition right the first time, but the fact is his approach is the only one that can give Neal an unpaid vacation pending trial.
    As to whether a county resident should be circulating said petition, the law says he can circulate it but can’t sign it. “Should” is just something to talk about.

  15. Bryan says:

    Donald Duck has much larger scandals to concern himself with, namely the numerous counts of indescent exposure. I propose that someone form a petition to force that wacky duck to put some pants on.

  16. Andy says:

    Finally. Bryan brings some perspective to this entire affair!

  17. Dave Briggman says:

    Oh come on, Joe, you know I would do that I would have done the same for (to) you!

  18. finnegan says:

    From WHSV:

    Despite talk of filing a petition to oust Harrisonburg City Treasurer Rebecca Neal Friday, it didn’t happen.

    City council member Carolyn Frank was going to file the petition in court Friday morning, but she didn’t have all of the signatures on hand to turn it in.

  19. JGFitzgerald says:

    Worth noting, Brent: VA law makes it extremely difficult for something like this to succeed. It would be interesting to know how often such a petition has even made it to the filing stage. The angels may be on the side of those working this project (and how rare that is for them) but the law is resistant.

    On the other hand, it would be helpful if the harmonizers at Peter, Paul and Carolyn would read off the sheet music and all finish together. How often can you promise “The Times They Are A-Changin'” only to start singing “Too Much of Nothin'”?

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