GOP musical chairs

Brent Finnegan -- March 26th, 2008

A year ago, I posted something about the possibility of Sen. Mark Obenshain running for Attorney General. The only thing that’s changed between then and now is that Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling has decided to stay where he is, so AG Bob McDonnell can run for governor.

Yesterday, the Richmond Times reported, “His decision means two-thirds of the Republican ticket is locked down for 2009, leaving open only the nomination for attorney general. At least four candidates are mentioned for that slot: Sens. Ken Cuccinelli, R-Fairfax, and Mark D. Obenshain, R-Harrisonburg, Del. Robert B. Bell, R-Albemarle, and former Del. Paul Harris, formerly of Albemarle.”

If Obenshain moves into the AG position, who moves into Obenshain’s seat?

40 Responses to “GOP musical chairs”

  1. Gene Hart says:

    A well-qualified Democrat.

  2. MF says:

    Glenn Weatherholtz? :p

  3. republitarian says:

    I wouldn’t worry….Mark will not win.

  4. Dave Briggman says:

    A single vote is enough to draw a picture of a politician for me…and our Republican delegation all cast the same vote on SB788/HB1382.

    The so-called Republicans we have in the General Assembly aren’t actually Republicans, they’re statists and, more accurately, fascist, putting the interests of the Commonwealth over the substantive rights of the individual.

    Mark and Matt won’t get my vote for dog-catcher in any future election…

    I may have to point LOHRFORDELEGATE.COM to some unflattering website.

  5. JGFitzgerald says:

    No prediction, but some trivia. Andrew Miller, Mary Sue Terry and Don Beyer all choose two terms at down-ticket positions (AG, AG and Lt.Gov., respectively) and went on to lose the governorship. Coincidence, or did they give up their turn?

  6. republitarian says:

    Are there any well-qualified democrats?

    Isn’t Creigh is running for governor?

    Gene, since when are you this big flaming dem? I mean really, your party is running a stalinist and a non-accomplished, Afro-centric hope pimper for president.

    Please tell me those two don’t represent your beliefs?

  7. JGFitzgerald says:

    Sic semper threads.

  8. Dave Briggman says:

    “Afro-centric hope pimper”…Myron, that’s not only accurate, but it’s also funny.

  9. David Miller says:

    non-accomplished, Afro-centric hope pimper for president.

    In my mind these represent “libelous, or name-calling comments”

  10. Lowell Fulk says:

    Afro-centric hope pimper? Did you think that up all by yourself? I think I’ll get that put on a tee shirt.
    Now I like him all that much better!
    Go Obama!

  11. republitarian says:

    Yeah, believe it or not I did.

    David, say what you will, but even Hillary knows he ain’t done much.

    His “pastor” and church preach afro-centrism…. and he sells hope.

    Where are these comments not accurate?

  12. Lowell Fulk says:

    I recently read that he has the same experience level that Abraham Lincoln did, and look how that turned out. And interestingly, the presidents both immediately prior to, and after Lincoln were considered among the most experienced, and since then are considered failures as presidents.

    He’s sayin’ what I’m a wantin’ to hear.

    Go Obama!

  13. Lowell Fulk says:

    Now to puuuullllll this thread back on track:
    I would imagine things would get interesting on both sides of the aisle if the 26th Senate seat came open…

  14. JGFitzgerald says:

    Mark’s seat up in ’11. AG race in ’09. Assume Mark wins. A GOP delegate from the district runs and win in a special election. Then we have another special election to replace the delegate. Election fatigue before February of 2010.

  15. Gene Hart says:

    Joe, grab some of that hope being throw around from our side! How about, a Democratic delegate runs and wins in a special election! Remember, we get a shot at them in ’09. Or, any of our well-respected members (both those that have run before and those that have not yet made a race) jump in and ride the rising tide to victory! Or, one of our newly-elected in 2008 city council members (or past members?) wins it for the good guys! With enough belief, organization and hard work, our area will be a hotly contested battlefield. Let’s remember to never cede the field to the opposition.

    Or, if the GOP keeps the seat, it all gets disappeared in the next redistricting (some pesky thing about population growth and trends in the Commonwealth).

  16. republitarian says:

    Wow Gene….I never knew you were one of them….

    What would the Gipper say?

    Lowell,

    “He’s sayin’ what I’m a wantin’ to hear.”

    While he’s saying what you want to hear….what has he DONE to back it up?

    Don’t get me wrong, I realize you’re choosing between the lesser of two evils…..

    I guess what I really want to say is out of the hundreds of millions of people….we are left with these three pathetic choices. I guess these two parties couldn’t do any better?

  17. finnegan says:

    Myron, are you really in a good position to criticize others for changing their mind or political affiliation?

  18. republitarian says:

    Yes, I’ve never really changed my political affiliation. I have entertained the ramifications of doing so…

  19. Emmy says:

    Its not a matter of the lesser of two evils (although I will agree that Hillary is evil). Obama is not an evil, at least in my opinion, and we’ve all seen where the “experience” has taken us.

    Why does Mr. Hart have to be “one of them” to want a decent candidate? Just because he sees that the Democrats have a lot of potential in this country and in this area, doesn’t make him “one of us”. But, we’ll be happy to have him ;)

  20. finnegan says:

    Oh, ok.

    So you never changed the name of your blog to “Obenshain for AG – ’cause Mark’s the Man”?

    I must have you confused with some other republitarian.

  21. JGFitzgerald says:

    Gene,

    I’m just trying to soften them up. Play along, OK?

  22. Lowell Fulk says:

    This is fun to watch…

  23. Gene Hart says:

    Myron, for me (and many others that came of age during the Reagan Revolution) the tenets of “Reaganism” were: a preference for personal liberty, limited federal government, a strong national defense, and fiscal responsibility. Now, not even my (continued) personal political hero always stayed on those paths; after all, he knew the art of politics is the art of compromise. Which party today, and which party in the last eight or more years, is the more “Reaganite”?

    Are you free-er due to the Patriot Act’s most extreme provisions? Are the changes to the FISA act liberty-friendly? We don’t defeat our enemies by becoming more like them; did we defeat the Soviets by moving towards a planned economy? How many friends do we make in the world by waterboarding our enemies? While many of us may be guided by faith in our personal and political lives, which party today is more likely to seek the formal and informal adherence to a specific religious/political ideological view? I expect you (even you?) wouldn’t disagree.

    Has the federal government’s reach in your life lessened recently? How do you like “No Child”? I’m not sure it has improved the education system in Virginia (though it probably has done great good in states that weren’t making the progress we were already implementing). I expect you would also agree that most problems are best solved at the lowest political level possible; is that a right or left issue these days? And, when recently there has been great need for the federal government to provide assistance when locals were overwhelmed by tragedy and without adequate resources, the record has been decidedly mixed. The federal response to 9/11 may have been great (though most useful in that uniquely federal role of military activity), but the federal governmental response to Katrina is a continuing disgrace.

    The Democratic Party in the post-9/11 era is not the too-often-anti-military post-Vietnam party of the Reagan era. It would be wrong to call either current party “soft” on defense, but it is possible to call one party wrong in an ongoing manner (see the Iraq war) and the other desirous of a different strategy (weren’t we going to get that Osama Bin Laden guy?). It continues to amaze me that Bush won’t acknowledge that the U.S. military (and my beloved 3ID Marne Division) has “won” the Iraq war at least twice (initial war and post-Surge) but the politicians have lost it again each time (the Americans after the original mission was accomplished and the Iraqis in the current period). If anyone still thinks we Democrats are “soft” on defense issues, please research a little on the flood of recent war vets coming up through our ranks. A great example would be Congressman Patrick Murphy from Pennsylvania. Look him up under “modern American hero.”

    It won’t take long to discuss fiscal responsibility. Just tell me your preference: tax and spend, or, borrow and spend? Many complain that my Democratic party did too much of the former in the past (it did), but does that excuse or explain the GOP’s irresponsible raiding of our children and grandchildren’s wealth via irresponsible borrowing? We are doing to ourselves with the unpaid costs of the Iraq war what we forced the Soviets to do in the Reagan years: we are willfully bankrupting ourselves. Complain all you want about the hard budget choices Govs. Warner and Kaine have had to make in recent years; they made them, they did what was necessary and our state is viewed as a model for good government across the nation. Does anyone really think that continues under Gilmore or McDonnell?

    Ronald Reagan famously said that he never left the Democratic Party, the party left him. Now, the reverse has happened for me and many of my friends. We are now at a time when the Democratic Party is ready to welcome the Reagan Democrats home. Don’t be afraid; I and many others will be there to welcome you with open arms and open minds.

    Oh, yeah, and with the hope that a past and a current candidate have made their central theme: there is nothing that Americans united cannot achieve if they will only try – we are a special people and damned proud of it. The hope is the same today as it was in 1980; only the challenges (and their corresponding solutions) are different. I expect we can all discuss THAT in the future.

    Sorry for the long post, Brent. But, it felt great!!!

  24. Emmy says:

    That was awesome Mr. Hart! Sometimes hope is all a person needs and when more than one person feels that same hope then great things can be done!

  25. Lowell Fulk says:

    And the crowd goes wild!!! Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap! Whistle, clap, clap, cheer, whistle, clap….

    Well said (written) Gene.

  26. Lowell Fulk says:

    Myron,
    He (Obama) has done alot, not just to back it up, but because it is the right thing to do, it needs doing, and because he believes. Remember when you came to Broadway to help in the concession stand? Same deal.

  27. republitarian says:

    Emmy, I believe Gene already has a wife….

    Gene, I’m glad I could give you the inspiration to write your political manifesto….

    ….am I going to get a bill for $250 an hour in a few days?

  28. Emmy says:

    Um what?

  29. finnegan says:

    Sorry for the long post, Brent.

    Not at all.

    As always, it’s a pleasure to read your comments.

  30. republitarian says:

    “That was awesome Mr. Hart! Sometimes hope is all a person needs and when more than one person feels that same hope then great things can be done!”

    Emmy, I heard this sucking sound…..while reading that.

  31. Emmy says:

    Um, good for you. I liked what he said, and I was referring to Obama with the hope statement. Sorry your mind goes to places it shouldn’t, but just because I’m a single female that doesn’t mean I’m trying to find a husband every where I go. Lowell gave him a round of applause, so does that mean he’s hitting on him too?

  32. republitarian says:

    Giving another man his kudos is one thing…..

    awww shucks….let’s all sing “Kumbaya” now…..

  33. Emmy says:

    Telling someone that their post is awesome = I’m hitting on them?

    I guess I’ve hit on a lot of people on this blog then. Who knew.

  34. David Miller says:

    Not to worry Emmy, it was simply an attempt to garner attention and therby derail attention from actual issues and meaningful conversation, typical right wing strategy. It could just have easily been a comment about homosexuals, immigrants or taxes; instead he chose an attempt at cutsie mocking.

  35. JGFitzgerald says:

    Following up on one of my earlier posts here, if Mark winning AG created a series of special elections, those who already have name recognition would have a head start because of the short lead time. Meaning the local elections in November could have an effect depending on whom they thrust into prominence.

    On another topic, Republitorian just complimented one of my posts on another blog — does that mean what I think it does, Emmy?

  36. TM says:

    Not to get this thread back on topic or anything but…
    What’s going to happen now?
    http://www.cuccinelli.com/

  37. finnegan says:

    I suppose it’s Obenshain’s move. Either he’ll announce that he’s running, or announce that he’s not running (those non-announcements usually make for funny press releases). And of course, there’s always the do-nothing option.

    FYI, I’m currently listening to Virginia Insight on WMRA with guests David Toscano, Emmett Hanger, Ben Cline, et al.

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