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		<title>By: hburgnews.com &#187; Warner, Graham stump for McCain</title>
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		<dc:creator>hburgnews.com &#187; Warner, Graham stump for McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] kick things off, a campaign organizer rallied the crowd with a call for volunteers, and praise for Goodlatte&#8217;s stand against the bailout (a bill which senators Warner, Graham and McCain voted for) to several hearty [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] kick things off, a campaign organizer rallied the crowd with a call for volunteers, and praise for Goodlatte&#8217;s stand against the bailout (a bill which senators Warner, Graham and McCain voted for) to several hearty [...]
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		<title>By: finnegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>finnegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase a line from This American Life, &quot;If the sub-prime housing bubble is what got the economy sick, credit default swaps is what turned the cold into a plague.&quot;

There is a connection between the two (primarily deregulation) and it&#039;s laid out in those two episodes of T.A.L. I mentioned above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase a line from This American Life, &#8220;If the sub-prime housing bubble is what got the economy sick, credit default swaps is what turned the cold into a plague.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a connection between the two (primarily deregulation) and it&#8217;s laid out in those two episodes of T.A.L. I mentioned above.
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		<title>By: Bubby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Questions professor, true or false:
1) The value of the entire mortgage market is $7 trillion?
2) The size of the credit default swap market last year was $45 trillion?

Essay:
Why are we still talking about the &quot;housing bubble&quot; in regard to the ruin of the American and possibly the World economy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions professor, true or false:<br />
1) The value of the entire mortgage market is $7 trillion?<br />
2) The size of the credit default swap market last year was $45 trillion?</p>
<p>Essay:<br />
Why are we still talking about the &#8220;housing bubble&#8221; in regard to the ruin of the American and possibly the World economy?
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		<title>By: finnegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>finnegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barkley Rosser wrote, &quot;I am a bit appalled at all the people who have come out of the woodwork with their sudden answers who have no idea what they are talking about.&quot;

I&#039;m certainly no expert on much of anything, but I&#039;ve read every relevant analysis and news report I&#039;ve come across, and it seems to me that George Bush (and to a lesser extent Paulson and Bernanke) fits the description of a man who has no idea what he&#039;s talking about on matters of the economy. Last year, Bernanke said that the fallout from the sub-prime housing crisis would be $50 billion. Now it&#039;s becoming clear that $700 billion or $850 billion is just a drop in the bucket of losses.

And that&#039;s what scares me. Everyone is blind and panicking, including our so-called leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barkley Rosser wrote, &#8220;I am a bit appalled at all the people who have come out of the woodwork with their sudden answers who have no idea what they are talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly no expert on much of anything, but I&#8217;ve read every relevant analysis and news report I&#8217;ve come across, and it seems to me that George Bush (and to a lesser extent Paulson and Bernanke) fits the description of a man who has no idea what he&#8217;s talking about on matters of the economy. Last year, Bernanke said that the fallout from the sub-prime housing crisis would be $50 billion. Now it&#8217;s becoming clear that $700 billion or $850 billion is just a drop in the bucket of losses.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what scares me. Everyone is blind and panicking, including our so-called leaders.
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		<title>By: Barkley Rosser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barkley Rosser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean Baker has had some of the more intelligent critiques of the bailout bill, notably that the Fed is able to buy commercial paper, which it is now doing.  Clearly the bill was badly flawed, and the Senate&#039;s additions only made it worse.

OTOH, the worst panic was on Sept. 17, when the full effect of the failure to bail out Lehman Brothers hit the credit markets, threatening to do in AIG, with total panic ensuing and interest rates on US Treasuries going to an unheard of 0.06%.  The announcement of the bailout was to undo that, and also to allow the bailout of AIG.  This latter had been insuring much of the global derivatives market, and letting it go would have put us into 1931 territory.  The markets plunged yesterday, but it could have been much worse.

This is a period of time in which all should be cautious.  I have for a long time (along with Dean Baker) been warning that the collapse of the housing bubble would lead to some very nasty outcomes.  However, I do not have an easy answer as to how we should deal with it.  I am a bit appalled at all the people who have come out of the woodwork with their sudden answers who have no idea what they are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean Baker has had some of the more intelligent critiques of the bailout bill, notably that the Fed is able to buy commercial paper, which it is now doing.  Clearly the bill was badly flawed, and the Senate&#8217;s additions only made it worse.</p>
<p>OTOH, the worst panic was on Sept. 17, when the full effect of the failure to bail out Lehman Brothers hit the credit markets, threatening to do in AIG, with total panic ensuing and interest rates on US Treasuries going to an unheard of 0.06%.  The announcement of the bailout was to undo that, and also to allow the bailout of AIG.  This latter had been insuring much of the global derivatives market, and letting it go would have put us into 1931 territory.  The markets plunged yesterday, but it could have been much worse.</p>
<p>This is a period of time in which all should be cautious.  I have for a long time (along with Dean Baker) been warning that the collapse of the housing bubble would lead to some very nasty outcomes.  However, I do not have an easy answer as to how we should deal with it.  I am a bit appalled at all the people who have come out of the woodwork with their sudden answers who have no idea what they are talking about.
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		<title>By: Bubby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CFMA was stuffed into an omnibus spending bill by the Republican majority leadership and never debated on the floor. Wadding commodities deregulation into funding for education, health care, community development, etc. in the final days of the  106th assured that no one would vote against it.  In a perfect world Clinton would not have signed it.

Bank and commodity deregulation was predicated on an effective SEC, knowledgeable investors, and sophisticated rating agencies.  Where was the SEC in their supervisory role of investment banks when they larded up the system with all this worthless opaque credit debt?  Who, in the last 8 years has understood the value of mortgage-backed securities?  And the current crisis is based on the lack of proper ratings on those investment securities.   Its like the entire financial system became a faith-based operation with one guiding principal - we BELIEVE real estate always goes up in value.  We BELIEVE in the universal wisdom of free markets.  No checks, no balances, just blind faith.  

Lobbyists wrote the deregulation laws, and they continue to fund John McCain&#039;s campaign, even paying his campaign manager $2 million for access to McCain, because the last thing they want is meaningful change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CFMA was stuffed into an omnibus spending bill by the Republican majority leadership and never debated on the floor. Wadding commodities deregulation into funding for education, health care, community development, etc. in the final days of the  106th assured that no one would vote against it.  In a perfect world Clinton would not have signed it.</p>
<p>Bank and commodity deregulation was predicated on an effective SEC, knowledgeable investors, and sophisticated rating agencies.  Where was the SEC in their supervisory role of investment banks when they larded up the system with all this worthless opaque credit debt?  Who, in the last 8 years has understood the value of mortgage-backed securities?  And the current crisis is based on the lack of proper ratings on those investment securities.   Its like the entire financial system became a faith-based operation with one guiding principal &#8211; we BELIEVE real estate always goes up in value.  We BELIEVE in the universal wisdom of free markets.  No checks, no balances, just blind faith.  </p>
<p>Lobbyists wrote the deregulation laws, and they continue to fund John McCain&#8217;s campaign, even paying his campaign manager $2 million for access to McCain, because the last thing they want is meaningful change.
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		<title>By: finnegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>finnegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalism can sometimes tend to be self-destructive (especially when unregulated), but it&#039;s also a pretty resilient system. If things get as bad as many analysts are saying it will get, I think we&#039;ll have to &quot;tighten our belts&quot; for a few years and get through it. 

But the &quot;global pool of investors&quot; won&#039;t keep their money under the mattress forever. Eventually they&#039;ll want to invest in something again and start earning interest on loans. Entrepreneurs will innovate, and investors will loan money and invest.

Several months ago, Prof. Rosser turned me onto &lt;a href=http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dean Baker&#039;s blog&lt;/a&gt;. IMO, Baker&#039;s one of the smartest economists in Washington. I highly recommend it to those looking for a reliable expert on the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism can sometimes tend to be self-destructive (especially when unregulated), but it&#8217;s also a pretty resilient system. If things get as bad as many analysts are saying it will get, I think we&#8217;ll have to &#8220;tighten our belts&#8221; for a few years and get through it. </p>
<p>But the &#8220;global pool of investors&#8221; won&#8217;t keep their money under the mattress forever. Eventually they&#8217;ll want to invest in something again and start earning interest on loans. Entrepreneurs will innovate, and investors will loan money and invest.</p>
<p>Several months ago, Prof. Rosser turned me onto <a href=http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press rel="nofollow">Dean Baker&#8217;s blog</a>. IMO, Baker&#8217;s one of the smartest economists in Washington. I highly recommend it to those looking for a reliable expert on the economy.
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		<title>By: Del</title>
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		<dc:creator>Del</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oversimplifying I&#039;m sure, but as I see it the problem is related to a gigantic, frenzied, speculative asset bubble, including but not limited to real estate, that is deflating. So there&#039;s only so much that can be done at this point.  The only question is how bad things will get. This is has happened many times before throughout the history of capitalism so we can only hope that those in charge have the knowledge to avoid the more severe catastrophes of the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oversimplifying I&#8217;m sure, but as I see it the problem is related to a gigantic, frenzied, speculative asset bubble, including but not limited to real estate, that is deflating. So there&#8217;s only so much that can be done at this point.  The only question is how bad things will get. This is has happened many times before throughout the history of capitalism so we can only hope that those in charge have the knowledge to avoid the more severe catastrophes of the past.
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		<title>By: watchman</title>
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		<dc:creator>watchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep hammering away at this dead horse.  I love this great country of ours.  There is a beginning and there is an end; an Alpha and an Omega.  The train is speeding down the track.  Look to see how much track is left.  Does anyone really, I mean, does anyone really expect McCain or Obama, or any of our politicians to bring this train under control before the track runs out?  These are pitiful people, downright pitiful.  And America watches their every move day in an day out.  We have become a nation to be pitied.  Yet the beat goes on...Obama...McCain...for god sake will someone please save us!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep hammering away at this dead horse.  I love this great country of ours.  There is a beginning and there is an end; an Alpha and an Omega.  The train is speeding down the track.  Look to see how much track is left.  Does anyone really, I mean, does anyone really expect McCain or Obama, or any of our politicians to bring this train under control before the track runs out?  These are pitiful people, downright pitiful.  And America watches their every move day in an day out.  We have become a nation to be pitied.  Yet the beat goes on&#8230;Obama&#8230;McCain&#8230;for god sake will someone please save us!!!
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