Comments on: Fitzgerald Announces Run For Nomination http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination Harrisonburg's Community News Network Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:09:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Coffman Intends Run For City Council | hburgnews.com http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-92703 Coffman Intends Run For City Council | hburgnews.com Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:56:18 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-92703 [...] month Joe Fitzgerald announced his intentions to run as a Democrat for one of the two seats up for [...] [...] month Joe Fitzgerald announced his intentions to run as a Democrat for one of the two seats up for [...]

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]]> By: Dave Briggman http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90804 Dave Briggman Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:35:11 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90804 Bandit, your argument that we who continue to remind voters about Fitzgerald's failure to live up to his campaign promise do not live in the City is specious as best. Most of us in the County spend a good part of our monthly incomes at City businesses, which brings in City revenues. Using your own logic, Benny, since you live out in the County, you shouldn't be participating in this thread either. Jeremy, I think your summary should contain the $2 million figure that Joe himself used to justify not stopping the golf course, with the cumulative dollars spent on the City on a annual basis to pay on it's shortfall. Bandit, your argument that we who continue to remind voters about Fitzgerald’s failure to live up to his campaign promise do not live in the City is specious as best. Most of us in the County spend a good part of our monthly incomes at City businesses, which brings in City revenues.

Using your own logic, Benny, since you live out in the County, you shouldn’t be participating in this thread either.

Jeremy, I think your summary should contain the $2 million figure that Joe himself used to justify not stopping the golf course, with the cumulative dollars spent on the City on a annual basis to pay on it’s shortfall.

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]]> By: BANDIT http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90753 BANDIT Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:37:09 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90753 The ones beating the dead horse (golf course), don't even live in the city limits....mind your own elections and business! The ones beating the dead horse (golf course), don’t even live in the city limits….mind your own elections and business!

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]]> By: Jeremy Aldrich http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90751 Jeremy Aldrich Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:31:35 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90751 Sounds like we need a brief refresher on the golf course controversy, since it is certain to be mentioned frequently from now until election day (if not longer!). Here are the facts as I understand them: In the mid-1990s, councilman Hugh Lantz began pushing for a municipal golf course. A 1995 feasibility study said a golf course would not work, but a 1999 study said it would. Council began holding public hearings, but it was widely believed to be an unfair and expensive "done deal" before the Council ever voted in April 1999. In the Council elections in the spring of 2000, a group of candidates under the banner CHANGE (Dorn Peterson, Carolyn Frank, and Joe Fitzgerald) swept into office decrying the golf course decision and the way it was made. CHANGE was the outgrowth of an organization called TAGS - Taxpayers Against Golf Spending. After taking office, Fitzgerald surprised many when he voted to continue the golf course project, siding with Lantz and Larry Rogers while breaking with the other CHANGE candidates. Fitzgerald said that not moving forward on the course would be more expensive than carrying through with the proposal. The golf course (Heritage Oaks) has never met its earning projections, and continues to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars each year for the city. Fitzgerald and the other CHANGE candidates were voted out of office in the 2004 election, though Frank won again in 2006. Any additions or corrections? Sounds like we need a brief refresher on the golf course controversy, since it is certain to be mentioned frequently from now until election day (if not longer!). Here are the facts as I understand them:

In the mid-1990s, councilman Hugh Lantz began pushing for a municipal golf course. A 1995 feasibility study said a golf course would not work, but a 1999 study said it would. Council began holding public hearings, but it was widely believed to be an unfair and expensive “done deal” before the Council ever voted in April 1999. In the Council elections in the spring of 2000, a group of candidates under the banner CHANGE (Dorn Peterson, Carolyn Frank, and Joe Fitzgerald) swept into office decrying the golf course decision and the way it was made. CHANGE was the outgrowth of an organization called TAGS – Taxpayers Against Golf Spending. After taking office, Fitzgerald surprised many when he voted to continue the golf course project, siding with Lantz and Larry Rogers while breaking with the other CHANGE candidates. Fitzgerald said that not moving forward on the course would be more expensive than carrying through with the proposal. The golf course (Heritage Oaks) has never met its earning projections, and continues to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars each year for the city. Fitzgerald and the other CHANGE candidates were voted out of office in the 2004 election, though Frank won again in 2006.

Any additions or corrections?

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]]> By: seth http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90747 seth Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:53:33 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90747 to me, the whole golf course imbroglio was more notable because of the fact that almost an entire council got elected by railing against a relatively trivial issue that had already been decided rather than because of any perceived treachery on the back nine of the thing. here's hoping joe runs a broad and intelligent campaign which addresses the many important issues in our community. to me, the whole golf course imbroglio was more notable because of the fact that almost an entire council got elected by railing against a relatively trivial issue that had already been decided rather than because of any perceived treachery on the back nine of the thing.

here’s hoping joe runs a broad and intelligent campaign which addresses the many important issues in our community.

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]]> By: Dave Briggman http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90728 Dave Briggman Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:53:13 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90728 Had Joe done what he had promised to do, the taxpayers would have lost $2 million by killing the project, on the otherhand, how many years now have city taxpayers had to cough up about $500,000 to subsidize it? Jamie, I'm neither misinformed, nor ignorant. Joe lied to the voters, which is why he was bounced from office. Had Joe done what he had promised to do, the taxpayers would have lost $2 million by killing the project, on the otherhand, how many years now have city taxpayers had to cough up about $500,000 to subsidize it?

Jamie, I’m neither misinformed, nor ignorant.

Joe lied to the voters, which is why he was bounced from office.

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]]> By: Jamie Smith http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90726 Jamie Smith Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:49:13 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90726 Joe's golf course vote was the right vote given the circumstances that existed at the time. Only the misinformed or ignorant will dwell on that. Joe’s golf course vote was the right vote given the circumstances that existed at the time. Only the misinformed or ignorant will dwell on that.

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]]> By: BANDIT http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90702 BANDIT Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:23:03 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90702 ....my guess is that clyde lives in or near Hinton, maybe Rushville... Good ol Christian. ….my guess is that clyde lives in or near Hinton, maybe Rushville… Good ol Christian.

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]]> By: Lowell Fulk http://hburgnews.com/2009/12/14/fitzgerald-announces-run-for-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-90667 Lowell Fulk Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:48:17 +0000 http://hburgnews.com/?p=4464#comment-90667 Hmmm... And what do you remember of the golf course situation "Clyde"? Hmmm… And what do you remember of the golf course situation “Clyde”?

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