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		<title>By: Valley Apps Announces Free Google Apps Migration For One School &#124; hburgnews.com</title>
		<link>http://hburgnews.com/2010/02/25/city-vies-for-high-speed-internet-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-105834</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Apps Announces Free Google Apps Migration For One School &#124; hburgnews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 23:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] program bears a resemblance to Google&#8217;s own high-speed connection contest this past winter, but Vanderpool writes that the idea goes back to his days teaching at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drew Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 03:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, I&#039;m the one that introduced UPB to Google Calender when I was doing their website. Unfortunately for JMU students, they will not be moving to Google anytime soon. The university actually switched over to Outlook. While this is certainly a step forward over Webmail...it&#039;s still not nearly as good as Gmail. In fact, most students I know have already setup forwarding to their Gmail again in the few days they&#039;ve had Outlook. Anyway, Google Apps is certainly a great way to go and I use Analytics for every site that I build. There&#039;s simply no greater free analytics system out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I&#8217;m the one that introduced UPB to Google Calender when I was doing their website. Unfortunately for JMU students, they will not be moving to Google anytime soon. The university actually switched over to Outlook. While this is certainly a step forward over Webmail&#8230;it&#8217;s still not nearly as good as Gmail. In fact, most students I know have already setup forwarding to their Gmail again in the few days they&#8217;ve had Outlook. Anyway, Google Apps is certainly a great way to go and I use Analytics for every site that I build. There&#8217;s simply no greater free analytics system out there.
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Bubby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Bubby!
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		<title>By: Bubby Hussein, Hillbilly Sheikh</title>
		<link>http://hburgnews.com/2010/02/25/city-vies-for-high-speed-internet-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-97019</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubby Hussein, Hillbilly Sheikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no Renee.  We&#039;re not &quot;out in the country&quot;, we&#039;re &quot;outside the 50 mile blast ring&quot;.    Our location has become an asset.  Trader Joes can&#039;t be far behind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no Renee.  We&#8217;re not &#8220;out in the country&#8221;, we&#8217;re &#8220;outside the 50 mile blast ring&#8221;.    Our location has become an asset.  Trader Joes can&#8217;t be far behind!
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have introduced GMail, Google Calendar, and Google Apps to several of my website-development customers. They like that it&#039;s an easy way to have several people update one calendar that&#039;s embedded on a webpage, for instance.

Here&#039;s an example of a local church using shared Google calendars on their site (we embedded them into Wordpress pages). They also have a private log-in area for staff, and available email addresses using their domain name that I set up with Google Apps.
http://mtolivebrethren.org/?page_id=36
http://mtolivebrethren.org/?page_id=20

More often lately, I&#039;m coming across people that already use GMail and GCal for personal use that are curious how they can use it for their businesses/organizations.

About the high-speed internet - I think Harrisonburg has so many dimensions - from local small businesses to non-profit orgs to college students to immigrant communities to national corporations - it would be a perfect &quot;test-bed&quot; for Google!

Also, I&#039;ve found many out-of-towners are surprised by how many high-tech businesses are located here, &quot;out in the country&quot; instead of setting up shop in the DC area. I do the majority of my business communication online, and have many customers out of the area, and Google&#039;s high-speed internet could make a big difference for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have introduced GMail, Google Calendar, and Google Apps to several of my website-development customers. They like that it&#8217;s an easy way to have several people update one calendar that&#8217;s embedded on a webpage, for instance.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example of a local church using shared Google calendars on their site (we embedded them into WordPress pages). They also have a private log-in area for staff, and available email addresses using their domain name that I set up with Google Apps.<br />
<a href="http://mtolivebrethren.org/?page_id=36" rel="nofollow">http://mtolivebrethren.org/?page_id=36</a><br />
<a href="http://mtolivebrethren.org/?page_id=20" rel="nofollow">http://mtolivebrethren.org/?page_id=20</a></p>
<p>More often lately, I&#8217;m coming across people that already use GMail and GCal for personal use that are curious how they can use it for their businesses/organizations.</p>
<p>About the high-speed internet &#8211; I think Harrisonburg has so many dimensions &#8211; from local small businesses to non-profit orgs to college students to immigrant communities to national corporations &#8211; it would be a perfect &#8220;test-bed&#8221; for Google!</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve found many out-of-towners are surprised by how many high-tech businesses are located here, &#8220;out in the country&#8221; instead of setting up shop in the DC area. I do the majority of my business communication online, and have many customers out of the area, and Google&#8217;s high-speed internet could make a big difference for me!
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		<title>By: Bubby Hussein, Hillbilly Sheikh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubby Hussein, Hillbilly Sheikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Jobs would tell that if you are looking for evil you need look no further than Microsoft.  

But never mind that: I have boxes of dead software.  Can&#039;t tell you how much time I wasted becoming a wordperfect power user.  Boy, Quattro was good while it lasted!  Remember Corel Draw? What happened to COBOL?  Anyone seen Canvas lately?  MSOffice was really good, and intuitively revised, then it was &quot;improved&quot; to Office2007 and we started again. I&#039;m tired of learning software. If every time I buy a car, I have figure out where the brake, accelerator, and turn signal controls are located I&#039;ll stick with the clunker I know.

I&#039;m now a late-adopter.  If Microsoft doesn&#039;t find a way to kill google apps I&#039;ll jump on when they are universal, and easy to use.  Right now it still looks like Bambi vs. Godzilla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Jobs would tell that if you are looking for evil you need look no further than Microsoft.  </p>
<p>But never mind that: I have boxes of dead software.  Can&#8217;t tell you how much time I wasted becoming a wordperfect power user.  Boy, Quattro was good while it lasted!  Remember Corel Draw? What happened to COBOL?  Anyone seen Canvas lately?  MSOffice was really good, and intuitively revised, then it was &#8220;improved&#8221; to Office2007 and we started again. I&#8217;m tired of learning software. If every time I buy a car, I have figure out where the brake, accelerator, and turn signal controls are located I&#8217;ll stick with the clunker I know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now a late-adopter.  If Microsoft doesn&#8217;t find a way to kill google apps I&#8217;ll jump on when they are universal, and easy to use.  Right now it still looks like Bambi vs. Godzilla.
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		<title>By: Brian M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a huge difference between the potential for evil and being evil. It seems to be human nature to not trust any large corporation. Besides the two examples that Brent brought forth, what other examples of Google being evil do you have, Joe?

(p.s. Steve Jobs&#039;s opinion doesn&#039;t count. LOL)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a huge difference between the potential for evil and being evil. It seems to be human nature to not trust any large corporation. Besides the two examples that Brent brought forth, what other examples of Google being evil do you have, Joe?</p>
<p>(p.s. Steve Jobs&#8217;s opinion doesn&#8217;t count. LOL)
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		<title>By: Michael Vanderpool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Vanderpool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,
Take a look at http://www.dataliberation.org/ it is a way Google has come up with for those folk who want to transition out of Google and into something less evil like MICROSOFT? AOL? The issue here is the data they store is much less &quot;telling&quot; then any of the other tech giants whom have been doing this for years. The difference here is that google actually has a system where  you can liberate your data from their servers. Google understands that you own the data and that is stated very clearly in the SLA. My thoughts are they are a very socially responsible company and they are the better of the &quot;evils&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,<br />
Take a look at <a href="http://www.dataliberation.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dataliberation.org/</a> it is a way Google has come up with for those folk who want to transition out of Google and into something less evil like MICROSOFT? AOL? The issue here is the data they store is much less &#8220;telling&#8221; then any of the other tech giants whom have been doing this for years. The difference here is that google actually has a system where  you can liberate your data from their servers. Google understands that you own the data and that is stated very clearly in the SLA. My thoughts are they are a very socially responsible company and they are the better of the &#8220;evils&#8221;.
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		<title>By: Brent Finnegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Finnegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps. But they make the best toys. 

Cooperating with the totalitarian Chinese government could certainly be described as evil, but Google recently announced they will stop censoring search results in China. 

I think it&#039;s absolutely lousy that they&#039;re cooperating with DMCA to squash mp3 blogs, but I wonder what they can do if they&#039;re being threatened with lawsuits from RIAA (assuming they would be liable in court).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps. But they make the best toys. </p>
<p>Cooperating with the totalitarian Chinese government could certainly be described as evil, but Google recently announced they will stop censoring search results in China. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s absolutely lousy that they&#8217;re cooperating with DMCA to squash mp3 blogs, but I wonder what they can do if they&#8217;re being threatened with lawsuits from RIAA (assuming they would be liable in court).
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