The Pub Shutting Down?

Brent Finnegan -- March 30th, 2010

The Pub (formerly Alston’s Pub on Deyerle) is reportedly closing its doors. A story in today’s Daily News Record states two employees have confirmed the establishment is closing today, while the owners declined to comment.

A WHSV story under the headline “The Pub Closing for Good?” is mostly about the 45-55 ABC food-to-alcohol requirements, but adds, “Bill Royer, part-owner of the Pub, would not comment Monday but says a lot of things, including when the bar would shut down, are up in the air.”

The Pub has been the subject of much bad press in recent years. In addition to charges of embezzlement and money laundering filed against the establishment by the ABC, an employee was involved in a fatal hit-and-run after leaving The Pub intoxicated (after hours) in January, 2009.

UPDATE: WHSV is now reporting that The Pub is still open.

Rumors a troubled Harrisonburg restaurant was going to permanently close its doors appear to have been false, at least for now. Supposedly, Tuesday night was going to be the restaurant’s last night for business. Even employees believed that would be.

However, the restaurant’s owner says it will be open Wednesday.

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12 Responses to “The Pub Shutting Down?”

  1. Drew Richard says:

    According to the Breeze…it will close Thursday: http://breezejmu.org/2010/03/29/student-favorite-the-pub-to-close-its-doors/

  2. Thanks for adding that link, Drew. Missed that one.

  3. Andy says:

    I watched with great pleasure as Main Street burned down while eating a burger at Dave’s. The Pub’s closure probably won’t bring me quite as much joy, but it will be close.

  4. WHSV is now reporting that they are not closed.

  5. Rob Layne says:

    In defense of any establishment that aims for Virgina ABC approval, selling beer, wine, or the big one, liquor…. Working for the forces who grant such privilleges to, say, a bar? Is like answering to the Gestapo. Virginia ABC laws are rediculous. Give more freedom to the business owners, and place more personal responsibility to the patrons and/or employees that abuse that “trust”. It’s ten times worse if you’re opening a new business that might threaten already established businesses that sells alcohol. And by “threaten” I mean, loss of clientel, overall sales, revenue, the threat to “friends of friends”, you know, things that happen when the “potential better competitor” moves next door… This much is true in Augusta County.
    That being said, there are establishments that abuse the rules, even “overserve”, as they say… I have no sympathy for such places. Having a bar anywhere near JMU, must be hell. Soo many fake ID’s to look out for, etc, etc .
    Last thing, people who go to a BAR, aren’t looking to eat. Period. Therefore, the food sales to liquor sales requirement is complete BS. I once met a guy from Ohio, who told me that all you needed to open a bar in Ohio, was to have people show up for it.

  6. David Miller says:

    I’d like to never see the term “overserved” again. If someone drinks to excess, that’s their fault. Granted the laws say otherwise. They place the burden of personal responsibility on the business. If you sell alcohol (even to go, off premise) you have to buy liability coverage in the event someone drinks that alcohol and does something stupid, then sues you for facilitating their idiocy. To me the laws can best be described by hypothesizing the following law: that if you see someone speeding down the interstate you have to chase them down and ticket them yourself otherwise you’re liable for their idiocy.

  7. citydweller says:

    re david miller: with all due respect, I have to disagree with your belief that bar owners should have no liability at all if the willingly continue to serve someone who has obviously had too much to drink. general rule of thumb is that it takes 1 hour for a beer to be metabolized by an average person. of course the amount of food being eaten at the same time and the size of the person do have some influence,but an hour is still a good ballpark. therefore if said bar serves the same person numerous drink within a 1 hour period, it stands to reason they are knowingly contributing to that persons intoxication.
    granted, in a bar setting that is hard to monitor, but not so for persons being served by waiter/waitress. many bars car about the bottom line and not whether or not the people in their bars consume alcohol to excess (unless they become rude of course)
    i’ll grant you that people should be responsible for their own actions, but unfortunately that is not the world we live in or else people wouldn’t make the choice to drive after drinking. your analogy doesn’t really apply to this situation because as a driver I’m not providing any potentially harmful product to the speeding driver. a bar owner is supplying a potentially dangerous product to a consumer if it is abused therefore I believe they have a greater responsibility to ensure their product is not abused. if they don’t want that responsibility then they should get out of that business.

  8. David Miller says:

    I respectfully disagree. Both in theory and practice. I’ve waited tables and it is not easy to keep people from getting drunk. If someone comes in after taking shots at another restaurant, then they’re already drunk but probably not visibly yet. If they sit the entire time and don’t speak much, its next to impossible to notice. Unless you want to install breathalyzers at every table in America then the level of control you wish to have over your fellow man is impossible. That control being to keep everyone from ever getting drunk.

    In theory I disagree with your statement “i’ll grant you that people should be responsible for their own actions, but unfortunately that is not the world we live in or else people wouldn’t make the choice to drive after drinking.”

    I don’t think that it is anyone’s fault” but my own if I drive drunk (which of course I don’t). Blame who you want for your decisions, I blame myself for the poor ones I make.

    btw, “too much to drink.” is speculative. Who says its “wrong” to get drunk? As long as you don’t get behind the wheel or puke on me then I really don’t care what you do to your body.

  9. BANDIT says:

    Always have a designated driver and it’s NO PROBLEM…..however, bar business is a risky business.

  10. citydweller says:

    david: i understand your point and agree if they are coming from another bar it may initially be hard to tell if they have had a lot to drink. i also do agree that people need to be responsible for their own choices ,but in the world we live in that is just not the case. too many people are willing to get behind the wheel of a car after a night of drinking. perhaps much tougher DUI/DWI laws would discourage that a bit and take some of the pressure off of bar owners.
    nothing wrong with being drunk if you don’t make poor choices. however the fact remains that many people make very poor choices when it comes to alcohol and i happen to believe that if they are provided that alcohol on the premises of a bar, then that owner does have some responsibility to ensure the alcohol is consume in a reasonable manner. this is where i think profits become the overriding factor though.

  11. David Miller says:

    Profit is usually the ONLY reason to be in business. Not to say those of us who own and operate our own businesses don’t enjoy benefiting our community and take great pride in doing so, but at the end of the day without profit I’m going to McDonalds for a job.

    My point is this, legalizing alcohol while at the same time making it illegal to get drunk is like outlawing ammunition but allowing gun sales.

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