Comments on: Harrisonburg Immigrant Activist Arrested In DC

By: David Miller

David Miller — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:19:27 +0000

Segregation also polled well

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By: eso

eso — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:40:34 +0000

Individuals are crossing the border to improve their life. I get that. It is illegal, but there are mostly small penalties applied to a small number of people. You (royal you) say it is what they need to do to have a better life, so we should legalize it and let almost anybody do it.

That is one option. Another option would be to raise the penalties, decrease the opportunities, and widely enforce it so there would be little money to be made, and the risk and penalties overwhelm the potential gain.

As you have said, the law can be changed. Polls show the very modest Arizona style legislation to be widely popular with the American public. Several legislators have spoken over the last couple of days on changing Birthright Citizenship. Most people recognize the current border control as ineffective, perhaps purposely so. Much of the American public thinks the correct answer is to increase border security and widening the laws against individuals and businesses who violate them. I think that is at least as likely as dropping essentially all border, immigration, and job controls.

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By: David Miller

David Miller — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:36:50 +0000

Only paranoid if you actually think that WND is a reliable news source ;)

just trying to understand what your side is thinking. I’ve got to say, I can’t figure it out. Either we fix the system or we don’t and we should be debating that end result and not the current side effects of broken policy, in the meantime we’re punishing the poor and many of us find that offensive so I’m trying to understand how we can tell someone who was 2 when their parents brought them here (probably to be able to afford food for said child), that they should pack it up and return to the country of origin that they never really knew, taking the subsidized education and future productivity potential with them. This whole thing is out of control and not productive.

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By: Jeremy Aldrich

Jeremy Aldrich — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:30:59 +0000

So, do you think we should put mandatory breathalyzers in every car, and cops on every corner all day every day? That’s kind of the analogy with the border security thing…

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By: Dave Briggman

Dave Briggman — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:36:03 +0000

My “following” Aaron’s posting with the link I posted with coincidental in natural…obviously, the hydrocodone I’m take for my shoulder…

A little paranoid, huh?

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By: David Miller

David Miller — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:48:31 +0000

I’m sure you have a point Dave, is it that immigrants drink and drive more than native born folks? Perhaps its that there are holes in our laws that allowed this to happen and need to be repaired? Is it that immigrants hate nuns? I’m just interested to know why you follow Cook’s post with a link and no context?

Cook, good points. For this scenario I like the quote “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.”

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By: Dave Briggman

Dave Briggman — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:05:09 +0000

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/2/illegal-immigrant-killed-nun-released-by-feds/

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By: seth

seth — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:32:39 +0000

that’s interesting. i still expect that the dream act will put more people in the military than it will in institutions of higher ed.

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By: cook

cook — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:28:37 +0000

Exasperating. Primarily because “illegal” or “lacking documentation” is a status WE have imposed on others and WE have the power to change with the stroke of a pen. That’s the part of this so-called debate that I just cannot get over.

WE (our economy) need laborers [rabbit trail deleted] so we call and allow laborers to travel to Harrisonburg to perform work for us. WE (our government) pass laws making it unlawful for workers to work without documentation and other laws saying that these laborers do not qualify for documentation. WE (us) get all high-and-mighty saying “nation of laws” and “if they would just come the right way” and “but they’re criminals” and other moralistic nonsense.

It really is like the speed limit. We could raise the interstate speed limit to 120, and none of us would then be illegal drivers. But that really wouldn’t be a good idea. We could lower the interstate speed limit to 20, thereby making just about everyone illegal drivers, and safer, and some of us who never drive would get all high-and-mighty about illegal drivers this and nation of laws that. But that would just be stupid. And exasperating.

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